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“Re-Deposit” Policy Effective July 1

Beginning July 1, a new policy took effect regarding “Re-Deposits.”  The term “Re-Deposits” refers to deposits made by players shortly after withdrawing funds from HorseTourneys.  This activity has been commonplace, and has been increasing in frequency as of late.

Why is this an issue for us?  HorseTourneys pays significant transaction fees to financial institutions on all deposits made by players, whether those deposits are made by credit or debit card, PayPal, or ACH.  HorseTourneys does not charge these deposit fees to customers, and instead absorbs these fees within our expense structure.  These deposit fees represent–by far–the largest expense line item on our balance sheet.  

While other horse racing wagering sites (such as major ADW sites) typically charge a minimum of $5 per transaction for a credit, debit or PayPal deposit, HorseTourneys currently only charges a 75 cent transaction fee on those deposits, and does not charge a fee at all on ACH deposits.  Our deposit policies are by far the most customer-friendly in the industry—and HorseTourneys does this while operating on a takeout margin roughly half that of a traditional pari-mutuel wagering outlet.

When players withdraw funds from HorseTourneys, and then re-deposit funds again within 24 hours, HorseTourneys is essentially double-paying deposit fees for those funds. This is unwarranted.

We understand why players may wish to do this, particularly with credit and debit cards.  Many credit and debit cards offer rewards on use of those cards.  The more a player deposits with said cards, the more rewards are earned.  Or, the activity may be simply one of habit, or as a means of bankroll management.  Regardless of the reason, management has determined that we cannot allow this activity to continue as is currently the case.

Beginning July 1, 2023, HorseTourneys is implementing the following policy:

-Players will be allowed a maximum of five (5) “re-deposits”, defined as a deposit made that is equal to or less than a withdrawal that has been requested within the past 24 hours, within a rolling 30-day period


-If a player exceeds this re-deposit threshold within the 30-day rolling period, those re-deposits above the threshold will incur a five (5) percent fee.  In other words, five percent of the requested re-deposit amount will be added to the total of the deposit.  This additional five percent will not be credited to accounts

If applicable, the fee will be included in the deposit summary that is presented to you prior to confirming a deposit.  

Players can easily avoid this fee by simply not depositing an equal or lesser amount of a previous withdrawal within 24 hours.  Entry fees that are intended to be played within 24 hours should be played from an existing account balance.

HorseTourneys strives to be as player-friendly as possible with regard to takeout, fees and other financial issues affecting customers.  If you have questions regarding this change, you may reach out to us at support@horsetourneys.com.

Statement from HorseTourneys Regarding Recent NHC Suspensions

HorseTourneys was greatly disappointed to learn, yesterday afternoon, of the integrity issue at the most recent National Horseplayers Championship (NHC).

Operating tournaments 364 days each year, we believe strongly that it is impossible to succeed if our players do not have a high level of trust in all that we do. We actively monitor for signs of collusion in our tourneys and take punitive action when appropriate.

Upon learning the names today of the three individuals suspended by the NTRA, we have decided to honor that suspension and ban the three from competing in all contests at HorseTourneys and HorsePlayers through the 2025 NHC.

Only one of the three men maintained an account at HorseTourneys/HorsePlayers. That account has now been deactivated.

HorseTourneys Management

Notice Regarding AUSTRALIA Tournaments

There has been a major change to how AUSTRALIA tracks are coded in the tote system that went effective March 20. This change will require development on our site to accommodate the changes.

As a result, we will be temporarily unable to offer tournaments on AUSTRALIA racing. We expect to be able to resume offering AUSTRALIA tournaments beginning the week of Monday, April 27. If the delay is any further than this, we will notify all players via email.

HorseTourneys Management

“Winter Rules” Now In Effect

This blog is sent out annually as a reminder of some tweaks we here at HorseTourneys employ to try and mitigate the effects of winter weather on scheduling. For beginners and veteran tourney players alike, it’s always a good idea for a quick refresher:

As we roll into the winter months, it’s a good idea that we explain our approach to scheduling, which we tweak this time of year.  We’ve employed this approach every year, and it just bears a quick reminder every November or so as chilly temperatures descend across the land.

Continue reading →

Notice Regarding PayPal Deposits

PayPal management has notified us that effectively immediately, the following changes will be applied to the HorseTourneys PayPal account (and accounts of any horse racing provider that accepts PayPal):

  • Credit or Debit cards will no longer be an option to make deposits directly on HorseTourneys using PayPal
  • The two options to use PayPal for direct deposits are: (1) using a PayPal balance; or (2) using a registered bank account

PLEASE NOTE: You may still use a debit card by first using that card to fund your PayPal balance. To do this, follow these steps:

(1) Login to PayPal

(2) Go to “Transfer Money”

(3) Go to “Add money from your bank or debit card”

(4) Follow the instructions to add funds from your debit card to your PayPal balance

(5) Once your PayPal balance has been updated, you may then use your balance to deposit directly at HorseTourneys.

You may email us at support@horsetourneys.com with any questions.

NOTICE Regarding Winner Take All, Head-to-Head Event Listings for Some Tracks

In an effort to reduce the home page listing size and load of HorseTourneys, effective immediately, please note that both WINNER TAKE ALL and HEAD-TO-HEAD events for some tracks will no longer appear on the main, home page listing.

These tournaments may be accessed by using the filters for both WINNER TAKE ALL and HEAD-TO-HEAD, found under the TYPE header in the filter section.

So for example, if you desire a $100 WINNER TAKE ALL event for HAWTHORNE, you would choose the WINNER TAKE ALL from the TYPE filter options. If you’d like to quickly find HAWTHORNE, also select the HAW option from the TRACKS list.

The same applies for HEAD-TO-HEAD. You may choose the HEAD-TO-HEAD option from the TYPE filter and find what track you’re looking for. Or, add the TRACK from the TRACK filter to narrow it more.

The tracks running at this current time that are affected by this change are as follows:

DELAWARE PARK
HORSESHOE INDIANAPOLIS
LAUREL
MAHONING VALLEY
HAWTHORNE
GOLDEN GATE
EARLY OR LATE BEL/KEE/SA

Please contact support at support@horsetourneys.com with any questions.

“Winter Rules” Now In Effect

This blog is sent out annually as a reminder of some tweaks we here at HorseTourneys employ to try and mitigate the effects of winter weather on scheduling.  For beginners and veteran tourney players alike, it’s always a good idea for a quick refresher:

As we roll into the winter months, it’s a good idea that we explain our approach to scheduling, which we tweak this time of year.  We’ve employed this approach every year, and it just bears a quick reminder every November or so as chilly temperatures descend across the land.

Continue reading →

Update Regarding State Fees For Minnesota Residents

The Minnesota Racing Commission has recently notified us of new requirements for Source Market Fees for residents of Minnesota.

Previously, HorseTourneys had received a waiver of a portion of these source market fees owed to the state on play at HorseTourneys and HorsePlayers. Effective July 1, 2021, we are now responsible for the full amount of prescribed source market fees for ADW providers in the state.

Due to our extremely low blended takeout rate (approximately 11 percent blended), HorseTourneys is unable to absorb this source market fee requirement in our existing expense structure. As a result, the State Fee on deposits for Minnesota residents has been increased to six (6) percent of deposited funds. This is only applied to your deposits, not to your entry fees on either site.

We regret that costs for Minnesota residents have increased, but please understand that this additional State Fee is required for us to be able to serve Minnesota residents. We will advise if there is any change to the source market fee requirement moving forward.